Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/02/2000 01:50 PM House FIN

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GENERAL SUBJECT(S):   OVERVIEW:  MENTAL HEALTH TRUST                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The following overview was taken in log note format.  Tapes and                                                                 
handouts will be on file with the House Finance Committee through the                                                           
21st Legislative Session, contact 465-2156. After the 21st Legislative                                                          
Session they will be available through the Legislative Library at 465-                                                          
3808.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Time Meeting Convened: 1:50 P.M.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Tape(s):   HFC 00 - 23, Side 1                                                                                                  
  HFC 00 - 23, Side 2                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT:                                                                                                                        
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Representative G. Davis                                                                                                         
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Co-Chair Therriault                                                                                                             
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Representative Foster                                                                                                           
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Co-Chair Mulder                                                                                                                 
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Representative Grussendorf                                                                                                      
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Vice Chair Bunde                                                                                                                
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Representative Moses                                                                                                            
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Representative Austerman                                                                                                        
Absent                                                                                                                          
Representative Phillips                                                                                                         
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Representative J. Davies                                                                                                        
Absent                                                                                                                          
Representative Williams                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT: REPRESENTATIVE TOM BRICE; JEFF JESSEE, EXECUTIVE                                                                  
DIRECTOR, ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY, DEPARTMENT OF                                                                   
REVENUE; CAREN ROBINSON, CHAIR, MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY,                                                                  
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE; NELSON PAGE, BUDGET CHAIR, MENTAL HEALTH                                                                 
TRUST AUTORITY, DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
LOG                                                                                                                             
SPEAKER                                                                                                                         
DISCUSSION                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
TAPE HFC 00 - 23                                                                                                                
SIDE 1                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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CO-CHAIR MULDER                                                                                                                 
Co-Chair Mulder convened the House                                                                                              
Finance Committee meeting at 1:50 P.M.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ALASKA MENTAL HEALTH TRUST AUTHORITY                                                                                            
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CAREN ROBINSON,                                                                                                                 
CHAIR, MENTAL HEALTH                                                                                                            
TRUST AUTHORITY                                                                                                                 
Ms. Robinson distributed handouts from                                                                                          
the Alaska Mental Health Trust Authority                                                                                        
(AMHTA).  [Copies on File].  She noted                                                                                          
that the mission and vision of the Alaska                                                                                       
Mental Health Trust Authority (AMHTA) was                                                                                       
to administer the Mental Health Trust                                                                                           
established in perpetuity.  AMHTA has a                                                                                         
fiduciary responsibility to its                                                                                                 
beneficiaries to enhance and protect the                                                                                        
Trust and to provide leadership in                                                                                              
advocacy, planning, implementation, and                                                                                         
funding of a comprehensive integrated                                                                                           
mental health program to improve the                                                                                            
lives and circumstances of its                                                                                                  
beneficiaries.                                                                                                                  
210                                                                                                                             
MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Listed the members of the Trustees                                                                                              
Council: John Pugh, Phil Younker, Tom                                                                                           
Hawkins, Nelson Page, John Malone, and                                                                                          
Susan LaBelle and herself.                                                                                                      
344                                                                                                                             
MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Noted the customers of the Trust's                                                                                              
Beneficiaries:                                                                                                                  
? People with mental illness;                                                                                                   
? People with mental retardation &                                                                                              
similar disabilities;                                                                                                           
? Chronic alcoholics with psychosis;                                                                                            
? People with Alzheimer's disease &                                                                                             
other dementia.                                                                                                                 
427                                                                                                                             
MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Listed the boards that advise the Trust:                                                                                        
? Alaska Mental Health Board;                                                                                                   
? Governor's Council on Disabilities and                                                                                        
Special Education;                                                                                                              
? Advisory Board on Alcoholism and Drug                                                                                         
Abuse                                                                                                                           
? Alaska Commission on Aging.                                                                                                   
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NELSON PAGE, BUDGET                                                                                                             
CHAIR, MENTAL HEALTH                                                                                                            
TRUST AUTHORITY,                                                                                                                
DEPARTMENT OF                                                                                                                   
REVENUE                                                                                                                         
Addressed the programs and the                                                                                                  
responsibilities of the AMHTA.                                                                                                  
? Manage the land and cash assets of the                                                                                        
Trust in perpetuity;                                                                                                            
? Provide leadership & advocacy for                                                                                             
beneficiaries;                                                                                                                  
? Recommend the State's budget for the                                                                                          
Comprehensive Integrated Mental Health                                                                                          
Program;                                                                                                                        
? Spend Trust income to improve lives                                                                                           
and conditions of beneficiaries.                                                                                                
Mr. Nelson spoke to the Trust Fund                                                                                              
Assumptions and the Trust Fund Actual                                                                                           
received.                                                                                                                       
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VICE CHAIR BUNDE                                                                                                                
Pointed out that the "pay out" was less                                                                                         
than intended.                                                                                                                  
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Replied that amount indicates the success                                                                                       
of the program.  He acknowledged that the                                                                                       
Trust was ahead of the number indicated.                                                                                        
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CO-CHAIR MULDER                                                                                                                 
Asked if the $40 million was real estate                                                                                        
assets.                                                                                                                         
808                                                                                                                             
MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Replied that they are all liquid assets.                                                                                        
820                                                                                                                             
MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Spoke to the liabilities.  He noted that                                                                                        
in FY01, there is money that can not be                                                                                         
considered as an asset.                                                                                                         
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JEFF JESSEE,                                                                                                                    
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,                                                                                                             
MENTAL HEALTH TRUST                                                                                                             
AUTHORITY,                                                                                                                      
DEPARTMENT OF                                                                                                                   
REVENUE                                                                                                                         
Explained that when funds are obligated                                                                                         
through the mental health bill, that                                                                                            
portfolio then will be separated into a                                                                                         
separate account.                                                                                                               
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REPRESENTATIVE J.                                                                                                               
DAVIES                                                                                                                          
Noted that these funds were set aside to                                                                                        
cover the liabilities.                                                                                                          
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Explained that there are funds which are                                                                                        
generated as the land assets.  The total                                                                                        
this year of that amount is about $17.5                                                                                         
million dollars.                                                                                                                
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Spoke to the increase of revenues that                                                                                          
have been generated by timber sales and                                                                                         
land that has been sold.  Additionally,                                                                                         
AMHTA has tried to be a good partner in                                                                                         
land swapping.                                                                                                                  
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REPRESENTATIVE J.                                                                                                               
DAVIES                                                                                                                          
Questioned the land sales philosophy.                                                                                           
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Explained that the Trust is not trying to                                                                                       
dispose of land assets.  At this point                                                                                          
they are trying to maximize the revenues                                                                                        
into perpetuity.                                                                                                                
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Added, the staff has developed agreements                                                                                       
with the various communities so as to                                                                                           
work in agreement rather than conflict                                                                                          
with one another.                                                                                                               
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Reminded members that the Trust was in                                                                                          
the mental health business.  He                                                                                                 
emphasized that there is a difference                                                                                           
between the cost of doing business and                                                                                          
creating mental health communities.  He                                                                                         
noted that AMHTA is trying to be                                                                                                
sensitive to generating revenue and still                                                                                       
sensitive to community needs.                                                                                                   
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REPRESENTATIVE                                                                                                                  
GRUSSENDORF                                                                                                                     
Inquired if a situation has arisen where                                                                                        
the Trust had advocated for a land                                                                                              
exchange.                                                                                                                       
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Acknowledged the situation in Juneau with                                                                                       
the sub-port facility.  The Trust                                                                                               
approached CBJ with the proposed land                                                                                           
exchange so as to be able to develop the                                                                                        
property.  The intent is to always create                                                                                       
a win/win situation.                                                                                                            
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Added, if the initial proposal does not                                                                                         
work, then other alternatives are                                                                                               
explored.                                                                                                                       
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Expanded on that concern.  He spoke to a                                                                                        
"memorandum of understanding" with each                                                                                         
community before development takes place.                                                                                       
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Addressed the results that the Board is                                                                                         
looking for:                                                                                                                    
? Are Trust beneficiaries healthy?                                                                                              
? Are they safe?                                                                                                                
? Are they economically secure?                                                                                                 
? Are they productively engaged or in                                                                                           
school? and                                                                                                                     
? Are they living with dignity, as                                                                                              
valued members of their communities?                                                                                            
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Addressed the comprehensive plan and how                                                                                        
that was determined.  She indicated that                                                                                        
there had been a statewide survey to                                                                                            
identify the various beneficiary groups.                                                                                        
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Noted that the next volume would be                                                                                             
available in January 2002.                                                                                                      
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Provided the evaluation criteria:                                                                                               
? Did they do what they agreed to do?                                                                                           
? Did they do it when they said it would                                                                                        
get done?                                                                                                                       
? What was the effect on the people they                                                                                        
served?                                                                                                                         
? Did the program/service cost less than                                                                                        
"doing nothing"? and                                                                                                            
? If the product isn't what we hoped                                                                                            
for, what can we learn?                                                                                                         
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Noted that each agency is required to                                                                                           
provide a status report twice a year or                                                                                         
more.  It is obvious that there are                                                                                             
housing needs for people coming out of                                                                                          
this program.                                                                                                                   
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REPRESENTATIVE                                                                                                                  
GRUSSENDORF                                                                                                                     
Asked what would happen if no result                                                                                            
happen.                                                                                                                         
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Replied that none of these situations are                                                                                       
free.  Rather than spending all the                                                                                             
resources of the Trust, they are done                                                                                           
only after undertaking a cost benefit                                                                                           
analysis.                                                                                                                       
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REPRESENTATIVE J.                                                                                                               
DAVIES                                                                                                                          
Inquired if it would cost more to do                                                                                            
nothing.                                                                                                                        
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Replied that in many cases it does and                                                                                          
particularly in the criminalization of                                                                                          
those people who are mentally ill.                                                                                              
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REPRESENTATIVE J.                                                                                                               
DAVIES                                                                                                                          
agreed that this would be a financial and                                                                                       
efficiency measure.                                                                                                             
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REPRESENTATIVE                                                                                                                  
GRUSSENDORF                                                                                                                     
Pointed out that this is costing less to                                                                                        
both the Trust and the State.                                                                                                   
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Commented on some of the programs that                                                                                          
have been funded.                                                                                                               
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Fairbanks Chronic Inebriate Program - She                                                                                       
listed what they did:                                                                                                           
? Expanded Community Service Patrol;                                                                                            
? New transfer station; and                                                                                                     
? Domiciliary treatment for public                                                                                              
inebriates.                                                                                                                     
They did that in the first year which                                                                                           
resulted in about 984 fewer calls to                                                                                            
Police Department about public                                                                                                  
inebriates.                                                                                                                     
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VICE CHAIR BUNDE                                                                                                                
Asked the investment in the program.                                                                                            
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Provided those figures which would be                                                                                           
transferred to Mental Health in 2002.  To                                                                                       
date, the cost has been $200 thousand                                                                                           
dollars.                                                                                                                        
1959                                                                                                                            
MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
In response to Vice Chair Bunde, Mr.                                                                                            
Jessee noted that the number of fewer                                                                                           
calls could be provided but not the                                                                                             
number of total calls.                                                                                                          
2000                                                                                                                            
MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Emphasized that the number of calls was                                                                                         
substantially lower.  The vast majority                                                                                         
of the fewer calls were directly related                                                                                        
to that program.                                                                                                                
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Addressed the next project which was the                                                                                        
Provider Capacity Building - 1998/1999                                                                                          
* Funded by Trust, UAA & federal                                                                                                
government;                                                                                                                     
? UAA taught classes, developed on-line                                                                                         
& video training;                                                                                                               
? Trust paid $100 thousand dollars for                                                                                          
scholarships for grantsmanship                                                                                                  
classes;                                                                                                                        
? 73 received scholarships.                                                                                                     
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Stated that the type of projects that                                                                                           
were awarded were mental health related.                                                                                        
The intent was to help develop a skill.                                                                                         
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REPRESENTATIVE J.                                                                                                               
DAVIES                                                                                                                          
Asked if any of the grants displaced                                                                                            
money from existing programs.                                                                                                   
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Replied that he did not know.                                                                                                   
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Added that within each program, the Trust                                                                                       
has built in some criteria to determine                                                                                         
the success of the program.  He noted                                                                                           
that each program funded would have good                                                                                        
accomplished by it.                                                                                                             
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Continued listing the projects:  Trauma                                                                                         
Victim Study: Providence Hospital                                                                                               
? In 9 months of 1999, 156 people                                                                                               
admitted to the emergency room,                                                                                                 
injured while under the influence;                                                                                              
? 5 died and 1 remained in a coma;                                                                                              
? 120 received substance abuse                                                                                                  
consultations;                                                                                                                  
? 106 received motivational                                                                                                     
interventions;                                                                                                                  
? 70 complied with treatment                                                                                                    
recommendations within 1 month.                                                                                                 
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Noted that the hospital created the                                                                                             
criteria regarding the influence and the                                                                                        
injury.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
TAPE HFC 00 - 23                                                                                                                
SIDE 2                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Stated that it is important to establish                                                                                        
what the costs actually are mental health                                                                                       
issues impact that.                                                                                                             
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Spoke to the Jail Alternative Services                                                                                          
(JAS):                                                                                                                          
? In 1998, Mental Health Court saw 138                                                                                          
people with mental illness,                                                                                                     
developmental disabilities or brain                                                                                             
injury;                                                                                                                         
? 111 also had substance abuse problems;                                                                                        
? 36 volunteered for intensive case                                                                                             
management through JAS;                                                                                                         
? 59% decrease in API admissions for JAS                                                                                        
participants compared to;                                                                                                       
? 60% increase in API admissions for                                                                                            
non-JAS participants.                                                                                                           
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CO-CHAIR MULDER                                                                                                                 
Asked the cost differential for the type                                                                                        
of treatment for the JAS versus non-JAS.                                                                                        
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Stated that he could not give those                                                                                             
numbers but he knew it was significantly                                                                                        
less than API charges.                                                                                                          
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Offered to provide that information.                                                                                            
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Noted that AMHT had provided money FY00                                                                                         
and FY01.                                                                                                                       
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Explained the eligibility criteria for                                                                                          
those selected.  He added that part of                                                                                          
the financial balancing is the per year                                                                                         
costs and spoke to breaking the cycles to                                                                                       
place these folks in a more stable                                                                                              
situation.                                                                                                                      
414                                                                                                                             
MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Added that the Court System and Justice                                                                                         
System costs must be considered.                                                                                                
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VICE CHAIR BUNDE                                                                                                                
Questioned the numbers being used to                                                                                            
compare.                                                                                                                        
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REPRESENTATIVE J.                                                                                                               
DAVIES                                                                                                                          
Asked who the mental health board was.                                                                                          
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Replied that it consisted of district                                                                                           
court judges, defensive attorneys, and                                                                                          
lawyers who identify these people and try                                                                                       
to meet their needs before they become                                                                                          
serious.  The JAS alternative services                                                                                          
have added the benefit of Mental Health                                                                                         
liaison to help with these problems.                                                                                            
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REPRESENTATIVE J.                                                                                                               
DAVIES                                                                                                                          
Asked what happened to the 102 persons                                                                                          
listed previously.                                                                                                              
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
They were given incentive to follow                                                                                             
through on some type of treatment.                                                                                              
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CO-CHAIR MULDER                                                                                                                 
Stated that this an outgrowth of the                                                                                            
Criminal Justice System.  He pointed out                                                                                        
that 37% of those in the current jail                                                                                           
system have some sort of mental illness.                                                                                        
He pointed out that 102 preferred to go                                                                                         
to jail than go into the treatment                                                                                              
system.                                                                                                                         
760                                                                                                                             
MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Noted that the Trust is trying to                                                                                               
determine other alternatives to going to                                                                                        
jail.                                                                                                                           
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VICE CHAIR BUNDE                                                                                                                
Stated that perhaps they prefer jail                                                                                            
because of a warm place to live.                                                                                                
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CO-CHAIR THERRIAULT                                                                                                             
Referenced Page 5, the modest increase                                                                                          
over the previous year.                                                                                                         
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Replied that in FY99, there was a                                                                                               
lucrative timber sale; and over + million                                                                                       
of that was from that sale.                                                                                                     
858                                                                                                                             
MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Spoke to the Women's Residential                                                                                                
Substance Abuse Treatment in Corrections.                                                                                       
She added that now there is no waiting                                                                                          
list to receive treatment.  The Trust's                                                                                         
money has leveraged 80% federal funded                                                                                          
dollars through the Department of                                                                                               
Corrections.                                                                                                                    
940                                                                                                                             
MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Spoke briefly to the Healthy Families                                                                                           
component.  She indicated that program is                                                                                       
very successful.                                                                                                                
970                                                                                                                             
CO-CHAIR THERRIAULT                                                                                                             
Asked if John Hopkins had developed the                                                                                         
criteria for that program.                                                                                                      
995                                                                                                                             
MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Did not know, but she did know that it                                                                                          
was being set.  She offered to provide                                                                                          
that info to the Committee.                                                                                                     
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Spoke to the Alaska Psychiatric Institute                                                                                       
(API).  He commented on what happened in                                                                                        
with that hospital:                                                                                                             
? What the Trust and DHSS said we would                                                                                         
do was to address the API replacement                                                                                           
problem.                                                                                                                        
? What we did: Community implementation                                                                                         
plan; due diligence review of                                                                                                   
property; established removal costs                                                                                             
for the old building; confirmed need                                                                                            
for hospitals 54-72 beds.                                                                                                       
? What we are doing now: Completing a                                                                                           
coordinated package, buy a new                                                                                                  
building, remove old building, pay for                                                                                          
community services before federal rate                                                                                          
changes cost the State millions more.                                                                                           
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Noted that the Department of Health and                                                                                         
Social Services has been very helpful in                                                                                        
improving the quality of care in that                                                                                           
facility.                                                                                                                       
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Commented that the main concern now is                                                                                          
the aging old building.                                                                                                         
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Spoke to System Improvements                                                                                                    
? Trust paid for several system reviews                                                                                         
such as HCB Waiver study, guardianship                                                                                          
review, managed care study and                                                                                                  
economic development review; and                                                                                                
? Results with no general fund costs                                                                                            
such as waiver system changes, OPA and                                                                                          
DSS re-structuring, Mental Health                                                                                               
Medicaid regulation changes, $2.1                                                                                               
million federal employment                                                                                                      
demonstration project.                                                                                                          
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Spoke to the best use of resources.                                                                                             
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MR. PAGE                                                                                                                        
Addressed the responsible oversight of                                                                                          
the Trust.                                                                                                                      
? The Young Adult Transition Program                                                                                            
FY98-99; and                                                                                                                    
? The Children's care coordination pilot                                                                                        
project for FY97-99                                                                                                             
These programs were not functioning to                                                                                          
the expected level.  The funding was cut                                                                                        
for both those programs.  He urged                                                                                              
Committee members to understand that the                                                                                        
Trust is concerned about State funds.                                                                                           
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Spoke to the Trust Priorities:                                                                                                  
? Assisted living;                                                                                                              
? API;                                                                                                                          
? Decriminalizing the mentally ill;                                                                                             
? Emergency behavioral health care;                                                                                             
? Medicaid and basic support.                                                                                                   
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Commented on the "Future"  The Trust is:                                                                                        
? Two-year comprehensive integrated                                                                                             
mental health plan;                                                                                                             
? Two-year budget cycle;                                                                                                        
? Fewer projects with longer terms.                                                                                             
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REPRESENTATIVE J.                                                                                                               
DAVIES                                                                                                                          
Asked how the community-based programs                                                                                          
were doing.                                                                                                                     
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
Replied that generally the progress is                                                                                          
good, however, there are difficulties.                                                                                          
The projects need to be co-located in a                                                                                         
facility.  The likely vendor should be                                                                                          
Providence Hospital but they have no                                                                                            
room.  Another issue is that one of the                                                                                         
main components of the system is having a                                                                                       
24-hour service center.  There is not the                                                                                       
interest in Anchorage because there is                                                                                          
competition in the health care industry                                                                                         
in that city.  He suggested that the                                                                                            
State could undertake that through the                                                                                          
procurement process.  There are other                                                                                           
facilities that could be built for the                                                                                          
contract.  The Department is sorting that                                                                                       
out at this time.                                                                                                               
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Added that there has been good work done.                                                                                       
The Commissioner has hired Lloyd Jones to                                                                                       
help with this work.  It is not there                                                                                           
yet, but it is in motion.                                                                                                       
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REPRESENTATIVE                                                                                                                  
GRUSSENDORF                                                                                                                     
Asked a question providing a hypothetical                                                                                       
situation in a potentially dangerous                                                                                            
situation.                                                                                                                      
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MR. JESSEE                                                                                                                      
explained that there are people who                                                                                             
develop mental disabilities and operate                                                                                         
from a more childish peer group.  There                                                                                         
currently is a residential program in                                                                                           
Anchorage for that group living situation                                                                                       
and that model does have a 24-hour staff.                                                                                       
It is expensive to serve those people.                                                                                          
Along with that is an educational                                                                                               
treatment providing structure for                                                                                               
appropriate feelings.                                                                                                           
1989                                                                                                                            
MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Added that the Trust has made funding                                                                                           
available to assess brain injury studies.                                                                                       
The Trust is working on that                                                                                                    
consideration at this time.                                                                                                     
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Applauded all the various Boards that                                                                                           
contribute to the work of the Trust and                                                                                         
the Department of Corrections and the                                                                                           
Department of Health and Social Services.                                                                                       
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MS. ROBINSON                                                                                                                    
Reiterated that there are amazing                                                                                               
consumer groups throughout the State that                                                                                       
are watching the Trust and working with                                                                                         
it.                                                                                                                             
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CO-CHAIR MULDER                                                                                                                 
Thanked the Trust for determining the                                                                                           
missions and measures and then providing                                                                                        
that information to the Committee.  He                                                                                          
stated that AMTA has a well-defined                                                                                             
program.                                                                                                                        
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VICE CHAIR BUNDE                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The meeting adjourned at 3:20 P.M.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                                         
LOG NOTES                                                                                                                       
February 2, 2000                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
H.F.C.      9     2/02/00                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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